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« on: August 17, 2009, 08:01:00 PM »

http://theunionleader.com/article.aspx?headline=No+helicopter+rescue+for+hiker+with+thumb+injury&articleId=eb0d7912-ba05-4d08-b64e-429f26b4a560

By LORNA COLQUHOUN
New Hampshire Union Leader Correspondent
Saturday, Aug. 15, 2009

RANDOLPH – A Texas man who fell and slightly injured himself while hiking in the Crescent Range yesterday was told by would-be rescuers that they would not be sending a helicopter up the mountain to fly him off the trail.

Fish and Game conservation officer Matt Holmes, who was monitoring the situations involving three hiking parties early last evening, conferred with Gorham police about the Texas man.

"I let them know that our resources are spread pretty thin and that an injured thumb does not preclude him from self-rescue," Holmes said last night.

The 50-year-old Texan, whose identity was not immediately available, was hiking with a group on the 3,251-foot Mount Crescent in the Icy Gulch area, when he apparently fell and injured his thumb.

"He didn't feel he could easily come down the trail because he couldn't extend his thumb," Holmes said.

A companion used a cell phone to call 911, which was then connected with state police and then public safety dispatchers in Gorham.

"I was up in Errol and was notified that a gentleman had called in with an injured thumb and he wanted to be rescued," he said. "He asked if there was a helicopter available."

The injured man's party said some friends were heading up the trail to assist them, Holmes said.

"An officer from Gorham talked to the individual who wanted a helicopter and advised that for a thumb injury, and especially with a group of people heading up to help him, that it would not be practical to send in a rescue helicopter," he said.

At the same time as the Mount Crescent call, Holmes was monitoring a situation involving overdue hikers on Mount Washington, who found their way off the mountain, and a 62-year-old woman with a sore knee who was slowly making her way down Lowe's Path.

"It's just prior to 7 p.m.," Holmes said. "Who knows what else we may get tonight?" and he did not want to risk spreading thin volunteer groups who are vital in mountain rescues.

Over the years, hikers have called for emergency service, including to help carry a dog off Mount Jefferson, to two men years ago requesting a helicopter rescue on Mount Washington in 125 mph winds, as they were hunkered under Cog Railway tracks. Last year, a woman requested a rescue when she could not find her shoes.

Holmes said it has been a busy week for rescue teams, which involve volunteer organizations, especially as the weather has improved.

"It's a nice warm day in August and people are coming out of the woodwork and they are getting dehydrated and hurting themselves," he said. "People heading out should carry an extra cache of water and flashlights. Even if they leave at 9 in the morning, I would check to make sure they had a flashlight."
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« Reply #1 on: August 17, 2009, 08:04:12 PM »

some interesting comments by readers on that newspaper link
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« Reply #2 on: August 17, 2009, 08:13:34 PM »

Oh My God!  what was i thinking when i hiked for 12 miles with my knee fully locked?  i could have called.
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« Reply #3 on: August 17, 2009, 09:20:55 PM »

I stubbed my toe once and called rescue cuz I didn't feel like I could easily use my hands to make my supper without help
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« Reply #4 on: September 02, 2009, 09:25:27 PM »

Unfortunately it seems these stories are more common than in the past.  I've often wondered what passive role, if any, outdoor outfitters play in this.  I've been on a couple of trips were wrong decisions were made by the majority of the group.  Novices must learn some how; however, it seems to me that these situations are a reflection of the "coddling culture" of 21st century America.   
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« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2009, 05:18:20 AM »

I don't think that sort of thing is new to the 21st Century.

There have always been people who want someone to wipe their arse for them.
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« Reply #6 on: September 03, 2009, 07:38:13 AM »

True.  Perhaps I should have stated that there seems to be a rise in this type of stuff since the turn of the century; potentially facilitated by the easy availability of technology.  With people so connected nowadays, I wonder if people just do not put into context the severity they put SAR in when calling them for a chipped fingernail.   
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« Reply #7 on: September 11, 2009, 09:03:01 AM »

Mark and Q: you seem so cold and heartless.  You'd probably have Jen making her supper with a stubbed toe, without rescue and Pamma suffering through 12 miles with a locked knee again.

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« Reply #8 on: September 11, 2009, 09:26:06 AM »

LOL!
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« Reply #9 on: September 11, 2009, 09:29:10 AM »

Converting a couple of SAR missions to carpet bombing would help.
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« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2009, 07:32:21 AM »

More:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33470581/ns/us_news-life/page/1/
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« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2009, 08:11:37 AM »

I think these units should come with a price tag if engaged.....attach say a $1000 or higher cost/fine if you really think you need rescue. Then this might get some of these tourons to think twice about buying and/or engaging the device. Calling for rescue because you're afraid of thunderstorms or the water tasted salty? That's pathetic.....and those that have the unit "accidentally" go off in their pack? Don't these dopes know these units come with some sort of basic responsibility......sheesh....pretty soon we'll hear about how some muffy needs immediate evacuation because her custom designed Coach backpack has a scuff on it....ohhh what shame....
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« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2009, 09:01:13 AM »

I just got this story sent to me from a hike buddy this morning.  My position is that the manufactures of the device should also include a "rescind" button to call off the troops.  Also, a loud audible beep should go off when the device is activated so that people would know if it went off in the packs.

Further, I think a simple solution is to register these things like handguns.  You apply for a permit, once you get it you go through a course on how and when to use it and the implications of calling in a rescue, then register it.  When the device is activated for no emergency, the operator is immediately (and with no questions) extracted, fined (like suggested above), surrenders the device and is barred from ever registering another device.
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« Reply #13 on: October 27, 2009, 12:00:53 PM »

I agree about putting a price tag on pushing that help button. People will be less apt to call for help when they know they'll be footin a hefty fee just for some "non-salty" water. The backcountry is the backcountry. It's dirty, challenging, and not for everyone. That's what makes it an adventure. Stupid people trying to "urbanize" the woods...sheesh!
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« Reply #14 on: October 27, 2009, 02:09:27 PM »

Good suggestions Q.  Especially the alert sound and the rescind function.
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