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    <pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 20:24:32 -0500</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Hey Pennsy</title>
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      <author>msdoolittle</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Ha!

Yep, I managed an outstide, real rock climb. 5.2, West Crack in Eldo. 

Roam keeps dangling rock in front of me. He's just looking for someone to belay him. :p]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 20:24:32 -0500</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Hey Pennsy</title>
      <link>http://www.lattaoutdoors.com/forum/read/15/85961/92656#msg-92656</link>
      <author>Pennsy</author>
      <description><![CDATA[You got the last seat? Dang it.
You may not have rain but I hear the afternoon t-storms are legendary.

Rumor has it, and it could be just rumor considering the source, that you got up on real rock this week. You need your own climbing thread with reports and pics and stuff ya know.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 17:56:36 -0500</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Hey Pennsy</title>
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      <author>msdoolittle</author>
      <description><![CDATA[hehe....

I've got a harness, chalk bag and chalk ready to be used at Eldo tonight, Boulder Canyon on Tue and wherever on Wed. :)

You know you want to move here. Endless possible routes within a 15 minute drive and rain is a rarity. 

Oh wait... sorry, they closed the border behind me. [img]http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/basic/rofl.gif[/img]]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 05 May 2008 11:27:48 -0500</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Hey Pennsy</title>
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      <author>Pennsy</author>
      <description><![CDATA[&quot;Plastic is the work of the devil.&quot;
So what's your point? ;o)

Work smirk... can't Roamy pull some strings at work? Priorities!

&quot;Sounds like a good night at the gym!&quot;
It would have been gooder if I didn't whip. It's supposed to rain this weekend so I might be back at the gym to give that route another go.
I should be resting a sore shoulder but I'm too antsy.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 18:48:49 -0500</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Hey Pennsy</title>
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      <author>msdoolittle</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Enabler!

No, I only use a debit card. Plastic is the work of the devil. Gotta wait for the govie to send me my moohla.

Nope, didn't get to Eldo. Had to work late that night. Hell week is over for now. May climb Mon-Wed next week if the weather holds out. hehe

Want to do Eldo and Roam mentioned a 5.5 and a 5.7 in Boulder Canyon.

Sounds like a good night at the gym!]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 20:48:28 -0500</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Hey Pennsy</title>
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      <author>Pennsy</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Well..... did ya do Eldo?

Forget the stimulus check. Get out the plastic and get everything now. Don't forget the rope. It comes in handy on occasion.

I did my first sport lead in the gym on Tuesday. I screwed up a move above an overhang, missed the hold near the clip and gave my belayer a nice ride. Whipppppppper!]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 01 May 2008 15:51:28 -0500</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Hey Pennsy</title>
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      <author>msdoolittle</author>
      <description><![CDATA[hehe.... who has time to take pics?

Maybe tomorrow. Headed for Eldorado Canyon....

Got some work to do. ;)

Once that little stimulus check comes, I'll be purchasing a harness, helmet, chalk bag, some locking biners, and a belay device. :D

I love the smell of new gear in the morning.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 28 Apr 2008 22:45:07 -0500</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Hey Pennsy</title>
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      <author>Pennsy</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Yeah baby, you're a bonafide rock chick now. Trip report? Pics?]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 25 Apr 2008 21:52:37 -0500</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Hey Pennsy</title>
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      <author>msdoolittle</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Hey Pennsy.

I did a 5.7 route tonight. :D

When are you coming to CO? :p]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 24 Apr 2008 22:42:44 -0500</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Soroche:  Altitude Sickness</title>
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      <author>msdoolittle</author>
      <description><![CDATA[lmao

I just read Bobo's whole reply. ;)

The trekking pole in the leg idea is good! :D

But not for you, spindle. :p]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 13:31:49 -0500</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Soroche:  Altitude Sickness</title>
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      <author>spindle</author>
      <description><![CDATA[It would slow you down a little.

;)]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 12:24:53 -0500</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Soroche:  Altitude Sickness</title>
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      <author>msdoolittle</author>
      <description><![CDATA[:-o

I don't need any extra appendages coming out of my existing appendages. Thank you. That would makes things slightly uncomfortable.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 12:06:34 -0500</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Soroche:  Altitude Sickness</title>
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      <author>spindle</author>
      <description><![CDATA[It works for me.  I wouldn't recommend the iron tho, if you're not anemic. 

MsD, for next August, if I stick you in the leg with my trekking pole...nothing personal.  ;)]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Mon, 21 Apr 2008 18:07:39 -0500</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Eldorado Canyon - The Whales Tail</title>
      <link>http://www.lattaoutdoors.com/forum/read/15/88147/89181#msg-89181</link>
      <author>Pope Bobo</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Good deal Roamy!  You were HIGH!!!]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 13:45:00 -0500</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Hey Pennsy</title>
      <link>http://www.lattaoutdoors.com/forum/read/15/85961/89179#msg-89179</link>
      <author>Pope Bobo</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Who is this Antonio you speak of.  Isn't he the missing climber that got lost in the Black Forest of Germany???
(B-]]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 13:41:48 -0500</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Soroche:  Altitude Sickness</title>
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      <author>Pope Bobo</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Good deal spindle, gradual acclimatization seems to be the key.  

msdoolittle, rapid ascent will most certainly give you mountain sickness very easily.  There are alot of cases of getting sick quick by either driving up to the top of a 14er, taking the bus up to Machu Picchu, or immediately getting off an airplane pressurized at 5000 feet to a destination above 10,000 feet.  If you're hiking partners can't slow down for you, stick 'em in the leg with your trekking pole!
(:`D]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 13:37:18 -0500</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Soroche:  Altitude Sickness</title>
      <link>http://www.lattaoutdoors.com/forum/read/15/85826/89151#msg-89151</link>
      <author>spindle</author>
      <description><![CDATA[The first time out to CO on the Flattops Wilderness hike I'd gotten a bit of a headache. That may have only been exertion and a touch of dehydration. It cleared up with some aspirin, water, and laying down for a while.

On subsequent trips I find I'm working a little harder on the hike than usual but I'm not significantly impacted. 

Taking iron supplements the week before traveling seems to help. As does acclimatizing to Denver for a couple days, and then a night or two at a couple thousand feet higher before the hike.

Other than sucking a lot of wind, I hardly felt it at all on this last trip.  :)]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 08:11:47 -0500</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Soroche:  Altitude Sickness</title>
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      <author>mtnsteve</author>
      <description><![CDATA[I hate to say it, but some folks just have a problem with going high. I have a friend who is a doctor and she can't go over 11,000/12,000' without getting really sick. She may have had a medical term for it besides AMS....I'll ask.

It does sound like you're doing and trying all the right things. Perhaps attention to detail (stating hydrated, etc) will help, like Roam suggested. Good luck.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Sun, 20 Apr 2008 07:14:45 -0500</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Hey Pennsy</title>
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      <author>Pennsy</author>
      <description><![CDATA[[quote spindle][quote Pennsy]I tip accordingly to the service provided. ;o)


Hey Roamy - are you heading home after the 18th? Sat and Sun, the 14th and 15th are fine but the Gunks would be much less crouded on a thurs and fri.[/quote]

Well, I can't say I'm distraught over not being able to list &quot;lap dancing&quot; as one of my marketable skills.  ;)

Still, Perkins...middle of the day...during the lunch rush...  ;)

Hey, if I pick him up at the airport and head up, where should I point mapquest at?[/quote]


You should be distraught. You need to practice practice practice so you can add that skill to your resume. And.... there just happens to be a Perkins right down the street. 

So, when you finish practice and commence to friggin Newark, point mapquest to New Paltz. It's right off the thruway, the exit after 84 Newburgh and before the first Catskills exit.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 17:45:57 -0500</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Hey Pennsy</title>
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      <author>Pennsy</author>
      <description><![CDATA[[quote msdoolittle]I have Spidey shoes and Pennsy's spork. 

Now... when you comin' out, Pennsy??

;)[/quote]

Who cares what brand or style you got. What color? 
Hmmmm, Roamy said he has my spork. Are you taking turns with it?
I reckon a western ho trip might be in order.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 17:40:55 -0500</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Hey Pennsy</title>
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      <author>spindle</author>
      <description><![CDATA[[quote Pennsy]I tip accordingly to the service provided. ;o)


Hey Roamy - are you heading home after the 18th? Sat and Sun, the 14th and 15th are fine but the Gunks would be much less crouded on a thurs and fri.[/quote]

Well, I can't say I'm distraught over not being able to list &quot;lap dancing&quot; as one of my marketable skills.  ;)

Still, Perkins...middle of the day...during the lunch rush...  ;)

Hey, if I pick him up at the airport and head up, where should I point mapquest at?]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 10:53:19 -0500</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Hey Pennsy</title>
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      <author>msdoolittle</author>
      <description><![CDATA[I have Spidey shoes and Pennsy's spork. 

Now... when you comin' out, Pennsy??

;)]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 09:40:14 -0500</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Soroche:  Altitude Sickness</title>
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      <author>msdoolittle</author>
      <description><![CDATA[This is why I want to head up to one of the drive up 14'ers before I slow anyone down on a climb. I do well now at 10,000'ish. I'm just curious to know how I'll do above that.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 15:25:30 -0500</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Soroche:  Altitude Sickness</title>
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      <author>Roam Around</author>
      <description><![CDATA[[quote Pope Bobo]sunnydayz, yup, you're another flatlander testing the limits.  Some people do just fine, others are incredibly fit and do lousy, no correlation seems to be the current concensus.  I'm interested to know if the Eastern US dorks like Roam and Adventurist have gone through any form of longer term acclimitization.
[/quote]

Your right - i can see no correlation between fitness and acclimitizing - at least up to 14,000 ft.  I've not noticed much affect of altitude - provided (and this seems to be the key) that i stay well hydrated.  On long strenuous days spent above 10,000, i seem to dehyrdate very quickly and if i'm not careful I'll develop a headache or start feeling a bit nauseous.  However as soon as I notice the first twinges, i'll start drinking and almost immediately feel better.

Adventurist seems to have some real problems with altitude - strong a hiker as he is - the elevation really seems to bother him - headaches  -  bad ones.  No matter what he does.  It's really frustrating for him.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 14:01:50 -0500</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: What are you climbing goals this season?</title>
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      <author>Roam Around</author>
      <description><![CDATA[I've heard the grades at the Gunks are generally pretty stiff.  Some people say the Eldo Canyon grades are all sandbags, but it's just that the old school grades have never been downgraded and thus some climbs can seem a bit stiffer than other, later developed areas.  those dudes from the 50's and 60's were badazz!]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Thu, 17 Apr 2008 12:47:11 -0500</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Soroche:  Altitude Sickness</title>
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      <author>Stew</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Going to Tanzania in June 2008.  I'll climb Mt Meru first and then have a mandatory day of rest before starting the Kilimanjaro climb.  I was told that climbing Meru first would help me to avoid AS on Kili...we'll see.  I have the Diamox but not sure if I want to take it.  

My sports doctor told me to take it before starting the climb.  The mountain guides say to start taking it when you get the first symptoms of AS.   Maybe I won't do either...]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 22:04:52 -0500</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: What are you climbing goals this season?</title>
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      <author>Pennsy</author>
      <description><![CDATA[High E is actually a 5.6 (last pitch 6+) but it's so freaking scary because it's so steep and exposed. I still laugh about the guide who was bringing up a client and encountered a party who were bailing. The guy said &quot;I lead 5.10 back home but that (pointing up to the money pitch) is sick!&quot;

Yeah yeah, I need to go west. I just wish I didn't hate travelling so much. I didn't get a new spork yet, so I guess there is hope.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 18:05:05 -0500</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Hey Pennsy</title>
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      <author>Pennsy</author>
      <description><![CDATA[If Antonio comes along, climbing on the weekend won't be as bad. Besides being a stronger leader than me, which means more routes to choose from, he's more familiar with finding the routes. I haven't heard from him in a while but I just dropped him an email. Weekdays still would be better and also easier to score a campsite.

It's all good though and will work either way.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 17:59:17 -0500</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: Pennsy is a Girl!</title>
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      <author>Pennsy</author>
      <description><![CDATA[Someday Bobo... someday you will pay for your insolence. (wanna go climbing? I'll belay you)

Grems - a machine? You mean the gri-gri, and only 1? I've heard of some gyms where every rope uses a gri-gri and anchored to the floor making it nearly impossible to drop someone. 

Nice score on the ID bivy. Quite a change from your old army bivy.]]></description>
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      <pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 17:46:33 -0500</pubDate>
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      <title>Re: What are you climbing goals this season?</title>
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      <author>Roam Around</author>
      <description><![CDATA[I've got a couple routes that spit me out last year that i need to get back to and complete clean.  I need to sit down and make a little tick list for myself!

High Ex is a stiff 7 isn't it?

You also need to come west there Pennsy - i'm gonna put your spork under a rock on top of Wind Ridge in Eldo and make you go get it.  :-p]]></description>
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